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 Post subject: What You Must Know
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Dear Patriots (1,400 bcc herein w/permission to forward),


EACH of YOU need to become acquainted with NULLIFICATION & SECESSION- Immediately.
We within the Provisional Government of the Confederate Republic realize that many of you have been led down a false trail regarding this.

That ‘Trail’ and the People associated with it, is the subject for another day as many have conspired to miss-lead you.

The current talk of Secession is just another of those ‘False Trails’ that will lead to nowhere.

YOUR FOCUS at this very moment should be concentrated in RESTORATION.

Within Restoration, lays the ONLY Material and Legal way in which we can remove ourselves from the deceptive web Washington has cleverly woven around every one of us.

But before I attempt any further explanation as to how this Can & Must be achieved, let me first invite you to READ the information herein & below, provided to you by the
Provisional Government’s Secretary of State, Mr. William Patterson.


Each of YOU MUST become acquainted with YOUR HISTORY and at ONCE as little time remains.

YOU MUST understand NULLIFICATION & SECESSION, as noted herein, to the extent it will help you understand what can be done as opposed to that which cannot.

THERE IS HOPE, PROVIDING YOU LISTEN TO US AND REMAIN FOCUSED.

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Subject: NULLIFICATION AND SECESSION

Nullification and Secession

Nullification

Nullification, in United States constitutional history, is a legal theory that a state has the right to nullify, or invalidate, any federal law which that state has deemed unconstitutional. The theory of nullification has never been legally upheld; rather, the Supreme Court has rejected it.

The theory of nullification is based on a view that the States formed the Union by an agreement (or "compact") among the States, and that as creators of the federal government, the States have the final authority to determine the limits of the power of that government. Under this, the compact theory, the States and not the federal courts are the ultimate interpreters of the extent of the federal government's power. Under this theory, the States therefore may reject, or nullify, federal laws that the States believe are beyond the federal government's constitutional powers. The related idea of interposition is a theory that a state has the right and the duty to "interpose" itself when the federal government enacts laws that the state believes to be unconstitutional.

Thomas Jefferson and James Madison set forth the theories of nullification and interposition in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions in 1798. A more extreme assertion of state sovereignty is the related action of secession, by which a state terminates its political affiliation with the Union.

The theory of nullification has been rejected repeatedly by their federal courts. The courts have found that under the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, federal law is superior to state law, and that under Article III of the Constitution, the federal judiciary has the final power to interpret the Constitution. Therefore, the power to make final decisions about the constitutionality of federal laws lies with the federal courts, not the states, and the states do not have the power to nullify federal laws.

Between 1798 and the beginning of the War for Southern Independence in 1861, several states threatened or attempted nullification of various federal laws. None of these efforts were legally upheld. The Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions were rejected by the other states. The Supreme Court rejected nullification attempts in a series of decisions in the 19th century. The War for Southern Independence ended most nullification efforts. In the 1950s, southern states attempted to use nullification and interposition to prevent desegregation of their schools. These attempts failed when the Supreme Court again rejected nullification in Cooper v. Aaron, explicitly holding that the states may not nullify federal law.

Secession

To date, U.S. citizens of 18 states have petitioned the White House for consideration of a peaceful withdrawal from the United States. Thousands of Americans have already signed petitions asking President Obama to allow them to peacefully secede from the union.

Secession in the United States can refer to secession of a state from the United States, secession of part of a state from that state to form a new state, or secession of an area from a city or county.

Attempts at or aspirations of secession from the United States have been a feature of the country's politics since its birth. Some have argued for a constitutional right of secession and others for a natural right of revolution.

In 1869, the United States Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) that unilateral secession was unconstitutional while commenting that revolution or consent of the states could lead to a successful secession.

Your provisional government does not seek secession.

That was already done PRIOR to the 1869 court ruling.

In addition, the Confederate government never surrendered at the conclusion of the War for Southern Independence in 1865.

We seek reaffirmation and restoration of the existing but vacant government of the Confederate States of America.

Politically, this will take time. We intend to do this peacefully, lawfully and sensibly BUT INTRINSIC AND NECESSARY TO THIS EFFORT IS YOU REQUESTING & BECOMING CONFEDERATE CITIZENS- ESSENTIAL & MOST KEY IN THIS PROCESS & ENDEAVOR.




People do not change until pain associated with staying the same is greater than the pain of changing.

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"AMERICANS Used To ROAR Like LIONS For LIBERTY,- NOW They BLEAT Like SHEEP For SECURITY."- ~~ Norman Vincent Peale-______ ~~ COPS ARRIVE IN TIME TO DRAW CHALK LINES , ~~~IT'S UP TO YOU TO SEE THE OUTLINE ISN'T AROUND YOU ~~.


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 Post subject: Re: What You Must Know
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:25 pm 
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~~Now If that got your Attention, try to understand the following, and what mess this is leading into ~~ ~~~ I am going to presume you read it and are now ?Connecting Many Dots?.
I am also going to presume I have your attention and FOCUS, so you can understand what I am about to say next herein.

Ø American?s have been taught to believe that the American Civil War was a Regional War fought between the same people within the same Country or contiguous land mass.

Please stay with me? now and remain focused PLEASE.

It was NOT!

Ø Rather, it was TWO COUNTRIES FIGHTING ONE ANOTHER- TWO COUNTRIES.

This is so very VITAL if you are to understand the context herein!

Thus, there were TWO GOVERNMENTS, each representing their own Country, in confrontation with one another.

You have been raised and taught to think & believe this was a Civil War with the same people of one Country fighting one another.
Again, it was NOT!

Ø When the Invasion of the One Country (Confederate Republic), ended in defeat, the other Country had a Real Big Problem on its hands.
(Are you staying focused?)

In order to JUSTIFY what was THEIR ILLEGAL INVASION OF ANOTHER, AS THEY WERE CLEARLY IN VIOLATION OF THEIR OWN CONSTITUTION AND EXCEEDED THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY, THEY had to change the disposition of All THAT OCCURRED IN ORDER TO JUSTIFYTHEIR POSITION.

Ø So, at the conclusion of this War between TWO COUNTRIES, they had to ?Rig the Deck & Stack the Cards so NO ONE would be the wiser.
Essentially, they had to make Legal that which was ILLEGAL & cover their ?Fannies?.
(Staying focused?)

What Did They Do?

Ø They immediately enacted & passed the 14th Amendment at the War?s conclusion that contained the Acts of Reconstruction that ALLOWED THEM TO RECONSTRUCT THE
OTHER COUNTRY, (CONFEDERATE REPUBLIC), to their Satisfaction.

EQUALLY, in so doing, they ALSO FORCED THEIR OWN COUNTRY?S STATES ,AS WELL AS THE COUNTRY THEY JUST VANGUISHED, TO REVISE AND ALTER THEIR
INDIVIDUAL STATE CONSTITUTIONS.

What Did That Do?

Ø Essentially, it TRANSFERED STATE SOVEREIGNTY & STATE POWER TO THE
FEDERAL UNION & Their Central Government.

In one fell swoop, EVERYONE (BOTH COUNTRIES), became vessels of a Federal Government wherein thePower went from the States within EACH Country, into a
Central Body of Government that was NEVER THE INTENTIONS OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS.

Remember, the Central Government was to have LIMITED POWERS- LIMITED!

Ø Thus, the One Country that Invaded the other (AND REMEMBER, NO MATTER ITS REASONING OR RATIONALE?, ALSO CLEVERLY DISTORTED OVER TIME),
IT HAD NO RIGHT OR JURISDICTION TO DO SO!!!!
(Are You still remaining focused?)

Ø The NET result TO THIS VERY day, is that a DeFacto Government (unrepresentative of the other Countrys), holds the People of that other Country in Subjugation.

The other Countrys Government (Confederate Republic), the DeJure Government of that Country (legal Government), REMAINS IN EXILE & ABSENTIA!

IT WAS NEVER CEDED OR SURRENDERED WHEN IT WAS CONQUORED AND HAS every RIGHT TO EXIST AND TO BE RESTORED!

It is NO DIFFERENT THAN GERMANY INVADING FRANCE & OCCUPYING IT.
FRANCE DOESN?T SIMPLY GO AWAY BECAUSE HER GOVERNMENT WAS OVERTHROWN.
IT REMAINS IN ABSENTIA UNTIL IT IS FREED WHERE UPON IT RESUMES ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE AMONG THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD.

Perhaps NOW you can correlate with the Confederate Republic?s repeated attempts to have Federal troops removed from THEIR SOIL WITHIN one OF THEIR sovereign states- South Carolina, 6-months prior to its Invasion?

Ø How would YOU react TODAY if YOU SAW CHINESE TROOPS OCCUPYING ONE OF YOUR FORTS?

Folks, IT WAS NO DIFFERENT THEN!

SO, and in conclusion, WE HAVE ALREADY EXERCISED OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF SECESSION!
WE ARE A COUNTRY BEING HELD AGAINST OUR WILL.

THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT OF OUR COUNTRY.

I know this is Difficult for some to contemplate but it is, Nevertheless, the Truth and the Resulting Condition!

There was TWO COUNTRIES BACK THEN & WITHIN THE SAME CONTIGUOUS LAND MASS BUT YALL HAVE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS EVER SINCE.

THEREFORE, THE RESTORATION OF THE CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT AND HER REPUBLIC IS WHERE WE CAN AGAIN PREVAIL AND FREE OURSELVES FROM THIS MONOLITH NATIONAL GOVERNMENT THAT STOPPED BEING A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN 1865!

I HOPE YOU ARE CONNECTING THE DOTS BECAUSE LITTLE TIME REMAINS.

BECOME A CONFEDERATE CITIZEN- IT HAS BEEN WAITING FOR YOU ALL ALONG AND HAS BEEN STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE EYES?. BUT WASHINGTON HAS MADE IT INVISIBLE.

ITS BEEN THERE, WAITING FOR US.. for the Last 150 YEARS.

God said: The Truth Shall Set You Free.?

It?s Your Choice Now. What Road will You Choose?

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"AMERICANS Used To ROAR Like LIONS For LIBERTY,- NOW They BLEAT Like SHEEP For SECURITY."- ~~ Norman Vincent Peale-______ ~~ COPS ARRIVE IN TIME TO DRAW CHALK LINES , ~~~IT'S UP TO YOU TO SEE THE OUTLINE ISN'T AROUND YOU ~~.


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 Post subject: Re: What You Must Know
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:31 pm 
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I can imagine the comments you will get to your post.

The Constitution is essentially a contract. Whether it was among all the people of the states or the states themselves is debated by some.
[Since the Constitution was ratified by conventions and not popular vote, I side with the state compact argument]

The issue comes down to if we believe the states have the power to break a contract. Individually we have that right (although usually at a cost if harm is caused to the other party) [govt doesn't have rights] but the power to break an agreement entered into on our behalf can be conveyed to the states by the citizenry.

Justice Scalia recently stated there is no constitutional right to secede. What he fails to recognize is there is no such thing as a right conveyed by the Constitution. Rights precede the Constitution and all forms of govt. Any right not given to govt by the Constitution are retained by the people.

What Scalia has really said is that the philosophy the States removed themselves from England by is invalid. [I guess Scalia must believe we are still part of England.]

To deny secession is to deny the Declaration of Independence and the right for people to choose a govt that best represents their interests, and by extension invalidate the existence of the United States in the first place.

So is it invalid to secede from an illegitimate entity???

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 Post subject: Re: What You Must Know
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:12 am 
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Well the Constitution lays out what rights are given to the governemnt,those not so stated are regulated to the states . ~That was always the way I figured it. I realize things have becomes twisted badly over the yrs.

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