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 Post subject: Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:29 pm 
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Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest

A. chilling report from the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) prepared for Prime Minister Putin warns today that United States President Barack Obama has had served on 14 US Governors National Security Letters (NSLs) warning that if their actions in attempting to form what are called State Defense Forces are not halted they will face “immediate” arrest for the crime of treason The use of NSLs in the United States was authorized by the Patriot Act law enacted after the September 11, 2001 attacks and forbids anyone receiving them from even acknowledging their existence, and was reauthorized by Obama’s “rubberstamp” Congress this past February over the objections of both civil and human rights groups who warned they mimic similar type “government security notices” enacted under both the former German Nazi and Soviet Communist regimes.To the issue angering Obama against these State Governors, this report continues, is their attempt to reestablish what are called State Defense Forces which are described as follows:State Defense Forces (SDF) (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, or State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States.
State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state. State Defense Forces are distinct from their state’s National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities.
The federal government recognizes State Defense Forces under 32 U.S.C. § 109 which provides that State Defense Forces as a whole may not be called, ordered, or drafted into the Armed Forces of the United States, thus preserving their separation from the National Guard.”
Important to note is that Obama, as President of the United States is also its most powerful military leader known by the term of Commander in Chief, and is authorized by the Militia Act of 1903 to federalize his individual States National Guard Forces putting them under his command, something he does not have the power to do with State Defense Forces.
Obama’s fear of these State Defense Forces, this report says, rests with his not having power over them, and with the bulk of the US Military Forces he does control being stretched to near breaking with the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would leave these State military forces under the control of these Governors in “defacto control” of the United States.
The two US Governors spearheading this rebellion against Obama, this report states, are the Republican opposition party Governors of Minnesota, Tim Pawlenty and Texas, Rick Perry; both of whom have a deep fear their President is destroying their Nation.
Governor Pawlenty’s fear of Obama is that since he took office he has appeased America’s enemies while at the same time shunning some of America’s most stalwart allies, especially Israel. Governor Pawlenty recently castigated Obama for abandoning the US missile defense plan for Europe by saying, “The lessons of history are clear: Appeasement and weakness did not stop the Nazis, did not stop the Soviets, and did not stop the terrorists before 9/11. We must stand strong with allies like Israel and eastern Europe in the face of growing challenges to our national security.”Governor Perry has blasted Obama and warned his fellow Texans that the President is “hell bent on socialism” and is punishing his State by dumping tens-of-thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants into their cities and small towns. Governor Perry further warned Texans that that if “Barack Obama’s Washington doesn’t stop being so oppressive, Texans might feel compelled to renounce their American citizenry and secede from the union.”
Note: Following the end of the Civil War the rights of the individual US States to succeed from the Union was heard by their Supreme Court in a case called Texas v. White (1869) and who ruled that the Constitution did not permit States to secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding States intended to give effect to such ordinances, were “absolutely null”.“through revolution, or through consent of the States.” However, the decision did allow some possibility of divisibility
Obama, in fearing a revolution against him by the States, this report continues, has moved swiftly against them, including nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in Governor Pawlenty’s Minnesota in what is being described as their State’s largest call up of troops since World War II. Other reports coming from the United States are stating that Obama has also nationalized the National Guard forces in Georgia, Alabama, Kansas, and perhaps Texas too.
Though Obama may have taken from these dissident States their National Guard forces, the Governors of the States of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia still have under their sole command their State Defense Forces to go against US Federal forces.
Important to note in this report is its stating that there are no US laws prohibiting National Guard troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces, but would create a dilemma for those soldiers should they be called to service by them both at the same time.
This dilemma occurred for many American soldiers during their Civil War with the great majority of them choosing to serve their States instead of the Federal Government.
To Governor Pawlenty’s fears of Obama appeasing America’s enemies, while at the same time harming its longstanding allies, their remains no doubt as during this past week alone he has put Israel’s security in grave danger by releasing previously classified US documents relating to their nuclear programme, while at the same time removing sanctions on Russian arms makers supplying Iran. And in a move that even Russian military analysts are calling “insane”, Obama this week said he has decided to pre-announce to the World once-secret American ballistic missile tests and satellite launches.
To Governor Perry’s fears of Obama socializing the United States their remains no doubt either, and as we can read as reported yesterday by the USA Today News Service:
“Paychecks from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal income in U.S. history during the first quarter of this year, a USA TODAY analysis of government data finds.
At the same time, government-provided benefits — from Social Security, unemployment insurance, food stamps and other programs — rose to a record high during the first three months of 2010.
Those records reflect a long-term trend accelerated by the recession and the federal stimulus program to counteract the downturn. The result is a major shift in the source of personal income from private wages to government programs.”
And in an even worse move against his own people who are still struggling to survive the growing Global economic collapse, new reports from the United States are stating that a “secret” programme found hidden in Obama’s socialist healthcare law called the Community Living Assistance Services and Support Act (CLASS Act) is about to take from them another $150-$250 a month from their paychecks forcing tens of millions more of them into abject poverty and debt slavery.To the final outcome of these events it is not in our knowing, other than to remind these Americans of Dr. Igor Panarin’s 2008 prediction of the fate lying in store for them, and as we can read as reported by London’s Telegraph News Service in their article titled “US will collapse and break up, Russian analyst predicts”, and which says:
“Igor Panarin, a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian foreign affairs ministry, said the economic turmoil in the US had confirmed his long-held belief that the country was heading for extinction in its present form.
In an interview with the Russian newspaper Izvestia, he outlined how the US would divide along ethnic and cultural lines.
They are: the Pacific coast with its growing Chinese population; the increasingly Hispanic South; independence-minded Texas; the Atlantic Coast; a central state with a large Native American population; and the northern states where – he maintains – Canadian influence is strong.
Alaska could be claimed by Russia, he said, claiming that the region was “only granted on lease, after all”.
He said the country’s break-up would be accelerated by rising unemployment and Americans losing their savings.
“The dollar isn’t secured by anything. The country’s foreign debt has grown like an avalanche; this is a pyramid, which has to collapse,” said Prof Panarin.”
And to those Americans believing they will be able to defend themselves against the fast approaching onslaught meant to destroy them they should think again, for even as these words are being written, Obama, through the United Nations, is preparing to disarm them all under the so called UN Treaty On Arms Control that he ordered his government to sign.
The late great American dissident comedian George Carlin once said, “It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it”….one can only hope these poor souls will awaken from their long slumber before all is lost ~~~~

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
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Some searches call this a hoax.? possible ,it's hard to tell anymore the way the nets been scrubbed and monitered.

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I have said for some time now, we are experiencing the downfall of the American empire. We are living through it right now! Other empire's have last hundreds and even thousands of years (Egypt, Rome, Greece, British, etc.), but the American empire (worldwide influence and might) will last a short 100-150 years. And the worst part is that we are doing to ourselves, from the inside.


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NP, do you have the link for your post?

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jadiff wrote:
I have said for some time now, we are experiencing the downfall of the American empire. We are living through it right now! Other empire's have last hundreds and even thousands of years (Egypt, Rome, Greece, British, etc.), but the American empire (worldwide influence and might) will last a short 100-150 years. And the worst part is that we are doing to ourselves, from the inside.

That's only a concern to a minority of voters. The 51% who voted for Obama hate America.


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Vic wrote:
The 51% who voted for Obama hate America.


COLIN POWELL HATES AMERICA??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Uranus wrote:
COLIN POWELL HATES AMERICA??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Powell's case, racism also comes into play.


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LocalGrown wrote:
NP, do you have the link for your post?

~~Do a quick search = Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest and you'll find loads of hits.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
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States are wallowed state militias so I'm not understanding this


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
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Newspolice wrote:
Some searches call this a hoax.?

We call it a lie

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
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Dancer wrote:
Newspolice wrote:
Some searches call this a hoax.?

We call it a lie

~~OMG!! :o The nice ]"Christian Lady"[/has sunk to going back a yr to find something to mix posts and attack. I understand now that your hero has sunk to a 39% approval rating your under duress . Maybe you need to double up on your meds and get more rest. guess not being in that election Tuesday was tuff on ya :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Threatens 14 US Governors With Immediate Arrest
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Origins: This item about President Obama's supposedly having served 14 state governors with National Security Letters threatening their arrests if they do not immediately halt plans to form State Defense Forces was widely circulated on the Internet in May 2013, that outbreak apparently stemming from a single source, a 7 May 2013 post on ItMakesSenseBlog.com (which has since been deleted).

However, that go-round was just a word-for-word repetition of a rumor that was first floated as far back as May 2010. Needless to say, none of multitude of sites that has reproduced this item has included any information documenting its claims, and in the three years since the rumor originally appeared no news outlet has reported anything
about President Obama's having threatened to arrest multiple state governors on treason charges. (The notion that the President was attempting to intimidate 28% of the country's chief executives by throwing them in the hoosegow and charging them with a capital crime is something that would have popped up in the press by now if there were anything to it.)

Moreover, this item displays a typical conspiracy-think misunderstanding of the terms and concepts it throws about. National Security Letters (NSLs) are demand letters used by government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and DHS to request information (such as telephone and Internet records) relevant to investigations involving national security and terrorism issues; they aren't arrest warrants or forms of threatening missives issued by presidents to demand that others comply with their orders. (And since NSLs typically include non-disclosure clauses forbidding recipients from revealing their contents, or even their receipt, how could the author of this item know that such letters had been sent or exactly how many governors had received them?)

State defense forces (SDFs) are military units that operate under the authority of a state government (commanded by the governor) but are distinct from the state's National Guard forces and cannot be federalized. Federal law (32 USC § 109) allows that any state "in addition to its National Guard ... may, as provided by its laws, organize and maintain defense forces." Nearly every state has laws authorizing the creation and maintenance of state defense forces, and 22 states currently have active SDFs. Given that state defense forces are authorized under both federal and state laws, and that the President has no authority to prohibit or restrict their organization and training, the formation of an SDF is not an action for which a state governor could be arrested and charged with treason.

In short, this isn't just a rumor that's lacking in any supporting evidence; it isn't even plausible in concept.


Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/governors.asp#za8w4eFsJGeur1IL.99

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OK that was updated in May 2013 (snopes) my post was in Nov 2012 ~ you dig for dirt on me for not being able to see in the future , then there's the reliability of honest snopes reports also. I will agree this one was probably a hoax. don't change the mind set of a person who hangs on to a yr old post awaiting a link that it's incorrect just to come back a yr later to call a person a liar. You need a hobby badly. take that back I think this is your hobby :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Newspolice wrote:
OK that was updated in May 2013 (snopes) my post was in Nov 2012 ~ you dig for dirt on me for not being able to see in the future , then there's the reliability of honest snopes reports also. I will agree this one was probably a hoax. don't change the mind set of a person who hangs on to a yr old post awaiting a link that it's incorrect just to come back a yr later to call a person a liar.

All you did is repost the exact same article that was put out in May of 2010.
And BTW...Snopes put it to bed in June 2010 (its still listed on there forum posted June of 2010)

Sorry Newspolice ...But am currently reading all the post that I have missed

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Dancer wrote:
Newspolice wrote:
OK that was updated in May 2013 (snopes) my post was in Nov 2012 ~ you dig for dirt on me for not being able to see in the future , then there's the reliability of honest snopes reports also. I will agree this one was probably a hoax. don't change the mind set of a person who hangs on to a yr old post awaiting a link that it's incorrect just to come back a yr later to call a person a liar.

All you did is repost the exact same article that was put out in May of 2010.
And BTW...Snopes put it to bed in June 2010 (its still listed on there forum posted June of 2010)

[color=#FF0000]Sorry Newspolice ...But am currently reading all the post that I have missed
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