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 Post subject: IF DICKS HAD ANY~DSG DUMPS ON CUSTOMERS
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:31 pm 
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Troy Defense Statement on Dick’s Canceling Black Friday Carbine Orders

Posted on December 29, 2012 by Dan Zimmerman

One-time gun seller Dick’s Sporting Goods is taking heat from customers who ordered and paid for Troy Defense carbines during their Black Friday sale. Now that Dick’s has decided that selling black rifles is a little too disturbing in a post-Newtown world, they’ve informed all of those prepaid customers that they won’t be making good on their orders. The retailer will refund the money, of course, and will throw in a $100 gift card on top of it. But that hasn’t made their customers too happy. To say nothing of Troy Defense, which Dick’s left hanging with no notification of their decision – other than what Troy read in the media. Troy’s press release on the situation (via kitup.military.com) is reprinted after the jump . . .
Troy Defense (Troy), a division a Troy Industries, Inc., was deeply dismayed and shocked to hear through national media outlets that Dick’s Sporting Goods (DSG) made the decision to stop selling the Troy Carbine along with other modern sporting rifles. DSG did not contact or inform Troy of this decision prior to notifying the public. Nor was Troy informed by DSG that cancellation letters were being sent to customers, set to arrive on Christmas Eve (a day Troy was closed).
Troy has invested millions of dollars in its facility and operations to bring its first ever modern sporting rifle to the market under an exclusive contract with DSG. In selecting DSG as the sole distributor of the Troy Carbine, Troy relied on DSG’s high sales forecasts and sales potential prior to undertaking the significant financial and corporate commitment necessary to design, develop, manufacture and bring a new modern sporting rifle to the marketplace. Based on DSG’s press release, DSG’s anti-gun stance is clear – DSG will not continue modern sporting rifle sales and Troy will sadly not see its Carbine readily available — despite the outlay of millions of dollars by Troy and its commitment to support DSG in its distribution efforts.

Troy is currently researching other channels to ensure continuous and consistent distribution for its rifles. But please note, Troy’s pricing to DSG was based upon volume sales. It is unlikely that pricing to any other outlet in the future will support the pricing granted to DSG. Troy understands the anger of certain DSG customers whose purchases have been cancelled – you got a great price from DSG. However, Troy, itself, cannot come anywhere close to offering the Carbine at the price DSG was offering it. DSG devalued and diluted Troy’s brand when it offered for sale the Carbine at a steeply discounted price during Thanksgiving week. As a result of the sale price set by DSG, DSG oversold and overpromised its inventory. Nonetheless, the current ill-will could have been avoided had DSG not terminated modern sporting rifle sales, promptly canceled overpromised orders, and forthrightly communicated with Troy.
Troy is hopeful that it will soon identify a new distribution channel for its Carbine. We ask for your patience and support during this difficult and transitory time.
Best regards,
Stephen Troy
CEO & Founder
The Troy Group


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Looks like Troy Industries has grounds for a lawsuit. The customers might also. They entered into a contract in good faith. Some enterprising attorneys should be able to put together a class action suit for cash not a GD gift card.


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Yep, sue em!

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Wow, a hundred dollar gift card for Dick's, enough to buy 2 pairs of sweat socks and a jockstrap.


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Rudey wrote:
Looks like Troy Industries has grounds for a lawsuit. The customers might also. They entered into a contract in good faith. Some enterprising attorneys should be able to put together a class action suit for cash not a GD gift card.

Troy, yes.

Customers, probably not.

I would like to see Troy pursue and win against Dicks. Serves them right for their cowardly reaction that values the fear of emotional response over honoring a segment of their customer base.

I can only hope that Dicks takes such a hit from the hunting/shooting community that they are forced to face severe financial repercussions or go out of business as a message to other retailers that it is dangerous to implicate themselves in the denial of the right to self defense of the public.

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bfranklin wrote:
Rudey wrote:
Looks like Troy Industries has grounds for a lawsuit. The customers might also. They entered into a contract in good faith. Some enterprising attorneys should be able to put together a class action suit for cash not a GD gift card.

Troy, yes.

Customers, probably not.

I would like to see Troy pursue and win against Dicks. Serves them right for their cowardly reaction that values the fear of emotional response over honoring a segment of their customer base.

I can only hope that Dicks takes such a hit from the hunting/shooting community that they are forced to face severe financial repercussions or go out of business as a message to other retailers that it is dangerous to implicate themselves in the denial of the right to self defense of the public.

~~Customers paid up frt. it's not like dicks could not delivered because of reasons out of their control. THEY broke the contract with the customer as well.They will be held responsible.

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Newspolice wrote:
~~Customers paid up frt. it's not like dicks could not delivered because of reasons out of their control. THEY broke the contract with the customer as well.They will be held responsible.


Since the customers were given their money back, they were made whole and don't have a claim.

They can withhold their future business from Dicks. About their only recourse.

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I'm sure there are other sporting goods stores out there with there mouth watering to take the business away from DICKS.

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There's always false advertising.

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Was talking with a firearms sales person the other day, they said they are out of AR-15s, they have ppl on rain cks, and as soon as they get an order, it's gone by the time the truck is unloaded.

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Were these intended as Christmas gifts ?

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tenringx wrote:
Was talking with a firearms sales person the other day, they said they are out of AR-15s, they have ppl on rain cks, and as soon as they get an order, it's gone by the time the truck is unloaded.


I was browsing around a few shooting supply sites where I occasionally buy reloading stuff and rim-fire ammo, they all are completely sold out of all magazines that hold over ten rounds, and not just for the AR-15's, for 10-22's, just everything. Even 22LR ammo is getting difficult to find.


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We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed

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Dancer wrote:
We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed


What do you feed it? Aluminum BUGS? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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tenringx wrote:
What do you feed it?


Tequila

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Dancer wrote:
We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed

I think you're the only guy here who likes Dicks.


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Vic wrote:
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We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed

I think you're the only guy here who likes Dicks.

You said, "likes Dicks." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Her, Mildred and hubby make it a threesome. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dancer wrote:
We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed

~~WARNING!!~~ Don't take a bat to a gun fight ,you'll loose~~ are you from Philly ? when they restricted the guns way back ball bat assaults down there went thru the roof.

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Newspolice wrote:
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We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed

~~WARNING!!~~ Don't take a bat to a gun fight ,you'll loose~~ are you from Philly ? when they restricted the guns way back ball bat assaults down there went thru the roof.


It's the weapon of choice for thugs, they don't need silencers, and it's up close and personal.

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tenringx wrote:
It's the weapon of choice for thugs, they don't need silencers, and it's up close and personal.

Got any stats tenringx?

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It's the weapon of choice for thugs, they don't need silencers, and it's up close and personal.

Got any stats tenringx?


They don't exist, you have to use an AR-15, to get 15 minutes of fame. I thought you would be a good source for those stats Dancer.

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tenringx wrote:
Newspolice wrote:
Dancer wrote:
We were at Dicks the other day to pick up an aluminum bat and they were packed

~~WARNING!!~~ Don't take a bat to a gun fight ,you'll loose~~ are you from Philly ? when they restricted the guns way back ball bat assaults down there went thru the roof.


It's the weapon of choice for thugs, they don't need silencers, and it's up close and personal.

~~And they don't get a mandatory 5 yrs by the feds like they can with a gun~~ Baseball bats moving from recreation to 'instruments of crime' in U.S. cities
September 24, 1992|By Linda Loyd | Linda Loyd,Knight-Ridder News Service Staff writer David Michael Ettlin contributed to this article.
PHILADELPHIA -- Baseball bats -- cheap, legal and readil available -- are increasingly a weapon of choice in Philadelphia and elsewhere for crimes of assault, and some lawmakers would like to define them as such.Bats, both wooden and metal, are extremely popular because under the law, they are not a weapon but a recreational tool, law enforcement officials say. Drug dealers and jealous lovers in Pennsylvania know that if they use bats, they will not be treated as severely by the judicial system as if they had used a gun, which carries a five-year mandatory sentence
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Bats, which sell for as little as $8, are second only to guns as the favored weapon in aggravated assaults in many of Philadelphia's neighborhoods.


http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-09-24/news/1992268113_1_bats-abraham-philadelphia

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It's the weapon of choice for thugs, they don't need silencers, and it's up close and personal.[/quote]
~~And they don't get a mandatory 5 yrs by the feds like they can with a gun~~ Baseball bats moving from recreation to 'instruments of crime' in U.S. cities
September 24, 1992|By Linda Loyd | Linda Loyd,Knight-Ridder News Service Staff writer David Michael Ettlin contributed to this article.
PHILADELPHIA -- Baseball bats -- cheap, legal and readil available -- are increasingly a weapon of choice in Philadelphia and elsewhere for crimes of assault, and some lawmakers would like to define them as such.Bats, both wooden and metal, are extremely popular because under the law, they are not a weapon but a recreational tool, law enforcement officials say. Drug dealers and jealous lovers in Pennsylvania know that if they use bats, they will not be treated as severely by the judicial system as if they had used a gun, which carries a five-year mandatory sentence
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Bats, which sell for as little as $8, are second only to guns as the favored weapon in aggravated assaults in many of Philadelphia's neighborhoods.

People Years ago there was a news reporter that was trashing Evil Knevil with lies in the papers. Evil warned him to stop, but the stupid fearless reporter, banking on the freedom of the press immunity kept it up. Evil put a stop to it with a baseball bat, messed the reporter up good, and only got 6 MONTHS.

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I remember that being in the news back then. It was quite the controversy for it's time.

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