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 Post subject: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:27 am 
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Jan 25, 2013
Associated Press

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit has ruled that President Barack Obama’s appointments to the National Labor Relations Board were unconstitutional.

The three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit said Obama did not have the power to make three recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board because the Senate was officially in session – and not in recess – at the time. If the decision stands, it could invalidate hundreds of board decisions made over the past year.

It also held that presidents have the authority to bypass the Senate in filling vacancies only when they occur during a recess, which it said occurs only between the end of the first year of a two-year Congress and when lawmakers convene for the second year.

Add it to the articles of impeachment.


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Vic wrote:
Jan 25, 2013
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit has ruled that President Barack Obama’s appointments to the National Labor Relations Board were unconstitutional.

The three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit said Obama did not have the power to make three recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board because the Senate was officially in session – and not in recess – at the time. If the decision stands, it could invalidate hundreds of board decisions made over the past year.

It also held that presidents have the authority to bypass the Senate in filling vacancies only when they occur during a recess, which it said occurs only between the end of the first year of a two-year Congress and when lawmakers convene for the second year.

Add it to the articles of impeachment.


I'm glad he's called out on this stuff, he needs to learn that just because he's the President he can't do what ever he feels like doing. I think that many of the recent 23 gun control executive orders will also end up in the trash. His administration is really pushing the envelope in this area.
He claims he wants to compromise but then he doesn't, so when he can't get anything through Congress he tries to do an end run.
He is already well into a 'Lame Duck' second term.


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:58 pm 
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TheSeif wrote:
I'm glad he's called out on this stuff, he needs to learn that just because he's the President he can't do what ever he feels like doing. I think that many of the recent 23 gun control executive orders will also end up in the trash. His administration is really pushing the envelope in this area.

I do not understand what the 23 executive orders are pushing

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:16 pm 
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Dancer wrote:
TheSeif wrote:
I'm glad he's called out on this stuff, he needs to learn that just because he's the President he can't do what ever he feels like doing. I think that many of the recent 23 gun control executive orders will also end up in the trash. His administration is really pushing the envelope in this area.

I do not understand what the 23 executive orders are pushing

~~ if your read the list the "the 23 executive orders " read more like posted sticky notes for an old man than any executive order.~~ ~~~The following description of the 23 executive orders was provided by the

White House. These descriptions are almost certainly deceptions, so don't

take them at face value. The devil is in the details, as we all know, so until

we get a chance to look at the actual wording of each executive order, we

won't really know what Obama is trying to pull outside of law, without

Congress and in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

There orders also completely ignore the issue of the psychiatric drugging of

children, which we know is linked to nearly every school shooting that has

taken place.

Furthermore, Obama has completely ignored the issue of violent video

games, violent movies and violent television programming.

But here's the list provided by the White House so far:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make

relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health

Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from

making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background

check system.
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4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited

from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through

the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full

background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing

guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product

Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to

trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and

make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with

proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute

gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease

Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most

effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private

sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking

their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law

prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement

authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of

worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental

health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity

requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on

mental health

Learn more:

http://www.naturalnews.com/038706_Obama_gun_control_executive_ord

ers.html#ixzz2JQBmC25E

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Newspolice wrote:
~~ if your read the list the "the 23 executive orders " read more like posted sticky notes for an old man than any executive order.~~

There was no 23 executive orders..You are posting bull again like others

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Newspolice we are waiting for your dispute

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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We know newspolice is side stepping

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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newpolice let me quess..This is a stupid question too?

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Keep reading/thinking..I will post the truth tomorrow

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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I'm back looks like Dancer missed me. don't be so impaient .I don't live on here.~~~ http://www.abc27.com/story/20606859/pres-obamas-executive-orders-spark-debate-mixed-reviews-in-midstate I did a google on the the 23 executive orders and now some say he signed them some say not ? tyhe nets being controled , you get what they want tyou to get. the first page i opened was Forbes a link on the signing of these 4x the browser shut it down . Verizon call emails spam even though when they come into my box they are called such they go into the inbox ~~~~ ~~Pres. Obama's executive orders spark gun debate in ... - ABC News 4www.abcnews4.com/.../pres-obamas-executive-orders-spark-debate-...You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Jan 16, 2013 – President Barack Obama's Executive Orders spark gun debate in ... side, Mr. Obama signed 23 Executive Orders (the right thing) as a part of his ...

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Dancer wrote:
Newspolice we are waiting for your dispute

Dancer wrote:
We know newspolice is side stepping

Dancer wrote:
newpolice let me quess..This is a stupid question too?

Vic wrote:
Dancer wrote:
jadiff wrote:

Why are you soooo antagonistic?

Please stay out of it

Answer his question

Now answer it


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Newspolice wrote:
http://www.abc27.com/story/20606859/pres-obamas-executive-orders-spark-debate-mixed-reviews-in-midstate I did a google on the the 23 executive orders and now some say he signed them some say not ? tyhe nets being controled , you get what they want tyou to get. the first page i opened was Forbes a link on the signing of these 4x the browser shut it down .

Mr.Marcheskie needs to update that link or better yet... Dennis Owens should research the so called "23 executive orders" and sort this matter out. It would be a great news story.. Anyways

President Obama has not issued an executive order since December 27, 2012

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

On January 16th the President issued 3 memorandum's

January 16, 2013
Presidential Memorandum -- Engaging in Public Health Research on the Causes and Prevention of Gun Violence
January 16, 2013
Presidential Memorandum -- Improving Availability of Relevant Executive Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System
January 16, 2013
Presidential Memorandum -- Tracing of Firearms in Connection with Criminal Investigations


http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/presidential-memoranda

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Dancer wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/presidential-memoranda

Thanks for the unbiased source......... :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Found this on a news site the day Obama gave his speech with all of the kids around him (1-16-13), at the end of the speech he sat down at a table and signed something, I thought it was the executive orders.

http://www.seifsite.com/Stuff/120650573-White-House-Gun-Violence-Reduction-Executive-Actions.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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TheSeif wrote:
Found this on a news site the day Obama gave his speech with all of the kids around him (1-16-13), at the end of the speech he sat down at a table and signed something, I thought it was the executive orders.

http://www.seifsite.com/Stuff/120650573-White-House-Gun-Violence-Reduction-Executive-Actions.pdf

It seems that due to all the controversy and criticism surrounding Obama's use of executive orders they've taken to calling them "executive actions" in this case. Either way so-called executive orders are not laws in and of themselves. They are memoranda written to various federal agencies describing policies for how they are to conduct business and implement laws. They don't apply directly to us, but do often determine how those federal agencies will deal with us.

As for his little signing ceremony, it was all kabuki theater, as was the exploitation of the kids.


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 Post subject: Executive Order VS Executive Action
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http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/337949/executive-order-vs-executive-action-and-media-hypocrisy-greg-pollowitz


‘Executive Order’ vs. ‘Executive Action’ and Media Hypocrisy
By Greg Pollowitz
January 17, 2013 9:10 A.M. Comments0

For the record, not one of the 23 “executive actions” issues by the president yesterday is an actual “executive order.” However, the White House did issue three “presidential memoranda” yesterday. They are:

Improving Availability of Relevant Executive Branch Records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System

Tracing of Firearms in Connection with Criminal Investigations

Engaging in Public Health Research on the Causes and Prevention of Gun Violence

The MSM, however, is using “executive order” as a replacement for “executive action,” which gives the reader the impression that the president has done more than he really has. The reality is President Obama hasn’t done much of anything. The headline “Obama To Fight Gun Industry with Three Presidential Memoranda” just doesn’t carry the same oomph as “23 Executive Orders.” Words matter, as the president has lectured previously.

If you’re curious, the last executive order issued by the president was to raise the pay of federal workers, which the House will vote to reverse next week. Raising pay for Congress merited an executive order, but not a single one to address the gun issue? Maybe the president can ask kids to write him some letters asking why he didn’t do more.

In fact, as we pointed out in this post linking to a Rolling Stone piece on Obama’s actions yesterday, an executive order President Obama could have signed that would have banned the import of certain weapons, magazines, and other accessories — one signed by President George H. W. Bush — was ignored.

Now, if I were an honest member of the Left and thought gun control was a major issue, I would be angry at what little was done yesterday. Piers Morgan, for example, has been trashing anyone on the right who dares to support the Second Amendment. If he had a shred of honesty, at the very least he should bring someone on from the administration and ask why, out of the 23 actions proposed yesterday, one of them was nearly identical to the proposal by the NRA to find a way to put armed guards in schools and study overall school safety and preparation plans.

We’ll see what happens.


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Thank you jadiff, that clears up a lot of the confusion, at least on my part.


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Thank you jadiff, that clears up a lot of the confusion, at least on my part.

Glad HE knows what he's talking about, unlike someone else.

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Dancer wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/presidential-memoranda

Hey that reminds me, I gotta send some more fishy posts to flag@whitehouse.gov

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I think you shut up Dancer on this one.


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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Barry just like to the word "executive " next to his name ,order or action :D~~ that does explain why he didn't pick up 23 different pens and keep signing~~know what those pens are worth on ebay ??? :lol: :lol:

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Newspolice wrote:
Barry just like to the word "executive " next to his name ,order or action :D~~ that does explain why he didn't pick up 23 different pens and keep signing~~know what those pens are worth on ebay ??? :lol: :lol:

And 24 hours ago you had no clue on what was signed. If I would not of been here it would of gone on & on

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 Post subject: Re: Obama Appointments Declared Unconstitutional
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Dancer wrote:
President Obama has not issued an executive order since December 27, 2012
That's been like forever!

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PublicByProxy wrote:
Dancer wrote:
President Obama has not issued an executive order since December 27, 2012
That's been like forever!

Thanks for helping me expain the ex order timeline

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Dancer wrote:
Thanks for helping me expain the ex order timeline
You'll notice that is only 33 days?

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