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 Post subject: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:25 pm 
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DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano told a House Committee on Homeland Security that the federal agency was “looking at drones that could be utilized to give us situational awareness in a large public safety [matter] or disaster,” despite the fact that the agency had previously indicated it was reticent to use spy drones to keep tabs on the public.

Sounds like it is time to start a new "Rocket Club" boys and girls. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:25 pm 
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Derf1 wrote:
... despite the fact that the agency had previously indicated it was reticent to use spy drones to keep tabs on the public.

Wonder how long ago that was. This isn't Tom Ridge's DHS.


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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:52 pm 
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HR 658 - Federal Aviation Administration Act of 2012

-Requires the FAA to develop a comprehensive plan for integration of civil unmanned aircraft systems into national airspace within 270 days of the enactment date of this bill, and requires the FAA to execute the plan by September 30, 2015 (Sec. 332).





Sponsors
•John L. Mica (FL - R)

Co-sponsors
•Louis J. 'Lou' Barletta (PA - R)
•Larry D. Bucshon (IN - R)
•John Howard Coble (NC - R)
•Stephen Ira 'Steve' Cohen (TN - D)
•ChipCravaack (MN - R) (Out Of Office)
•Jeffrey 'Jeff' Denham (CA - R)
•Blake R. Farenthold (TX - R)
•BobGibbs (OH - R)
•Samuel B. 'Sam' Graves (MO - R)
•Frank C. Guinta (NH - R) (Out Of Office)
•Richard L. Hanna (NY - R)
•Randall M. 'Randy' Hultgren (IL - R)
•JamesLankford (OK - R)
•BillyLong (MO - R)
•Patrick 'Pat' Meehan (PA - R)
•Gary G. Miller (CA - R)
•ShelleyMoore Capito (WV - R)
•Thomas E. 'Tom' Petri (WI - R)
•Thomas W. 'Tom' Reed II (NY - R)
•ToddRokita (IN - R)
•BillShuster (PA - R)
•William Steve Southerland (FL - R)
•Lynn A. Westmoreland (GA - R)
•Donald E. 'Don' Young (AK - R)

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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:35 am 
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I don't know where we "draw the line" as to unreasonable searches as defined in the 4th amendment. (The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.).

We assume innocence until proven guilty, and given the ease of 20/20 hindsight, we would have wanted the authorities to get the guys behind the 9-11 attacks before they could have done these deeds. With the advent of greater scientific equipment, their deeds might or might not have been discovered before they became reality.

The entire gist of this is trying to stop a catastrophe before it begins. I have no "cut and dried" answer.


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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:16 am 
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This spells trouble boys and girls. If we allow drones in our airspace, it is nearly done. As a matter of fact, it may be too late already. The America envisioned by our Founding Fathers is no more.


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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
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Drones shot down ~~~ Police are investigating an incident at a Berks County hunting club in which someone on the hunting grounds allegedly targeted a mechanical flying object rather than a living and breathing one.
SHowing Animals Respect and Kindness (SHARK) are in the midst of a campaign against the Wing Pointe commercial hunting grounds in Hamburg, Berks County and its live pigeon shoots in which the birds are shot down. SHARK began to use an “Octocopter,” a remote controlled flying machine with a high tech video camera, to secretly record the pigeon shoots as they happen.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Flying-Camera-From-Animal-Rights-Group-Shot-Down-at-Pigeon-Shoot-Cops-179983451.html ~~Citizens Shoot Down Surveillance Drone~~A remote-controlled aircraft owned and operated by an animal rights group called SHARK, was reportedly shot down near Broxton Bridge Plantation, South Carolina, on Sunday. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/02/17/citizens-shoot-down-animal-rights-groups-surveillance-drone/ ~~Take Note what happens to noisey drones on private property~~

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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:36 pm 
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Drones shot down ~~~ Police are investigating an incident at a Berks County hunting club in which someone on the hunting grounds allegedly targeted a mechanical flying object rather than a living and breathing one.
SHowing Animals Respect and Kindness (SHARK) are in the midst of a campaign against the Wing Pointe commercial hunting grounds in Hamburg, Berks County and its live pigeon shoots in which the birds are shot down. SHARK began to use an “Octocopter,” a remote controlled flying machine with a high tech video camera, to secretly record the pigeon shoots as they happen.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Flying-Camera-From-Animal-Rights-Group-Shot-Down-at-Pigeon-Shoot-Cops-179983451.html ~~Citizens Shoot Down Surveillance Drone~~A remote-controlled aircraft owned and operated by an animal rights group called SHARK, was reportedly shot down near Broxton Bridge Plantation, South Carolina, on Sunday. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/02/17/citizens-shoot-down-animal-rights-groups-surveillance-drone/ ~~Take Note what happens to noisey drones on private property~~

Fair game. Pun intended. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: “Public Safety” Drones
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:29 pm 
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Rudey wrote:
SHARK began to use an “Octocopter,” a remote controlled flying machine with a high tech video camera, to secretly record the pigeon shoots as they happen
We not only own a plot of land, we also own the airspace above(to an extent). Any protrusion of that airspace is trespassing.

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